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You Can't Have One Without The Other
RachelW254 Reviews | 5.03/10 (254 Ratings, 0 Likes, 335 Favorites )
In the wake of the fall of Voldemort, a new law threatens Muggleborn women with forced marriages, including Hermione Granger who must make the best of a bad situation by marrying Severus Snape. This story is that of the long and rocky road to eventually find contentment.
Winner of the Multifaceted Award, round three, Courage category. Thanks!
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I have loved this fic, but I didn't like Ashwinder version 's ending, that ending was so unfair to Severus and it ruined whole story for me, but now I'm glad I found this version, I'm loving this ending, though it's not right or perfect but I can't see my Severus heart broken again and I absolutely love a morally grey and dark Severus ..... Overall the story was amazing, so well written and Smut was mind-blowing, I wish we could have more smut when Hermione returned to Severus in ending and some more story in detail,may be a whole chapter on how she went back to Severus, from Uni to moving into an apartment,their holiday, how she distant herself from her friends, how Severus keeps on giving her potion and how is there se* life now, does Severus still prefer dom-sub kind of stuff, does she enjoy that - I wish we could have all of this in detail in a whole new chapter...... Thank you for this wonderful story and this "Happy for Severus" ending 👍🏻😍
I love how you have them both sticking it out, yet hurting themselves in the process. Most stories have them revolve their problems quickly or just have a brief paragraph saying some time has passed. Great job!
This has been an amazing story. It's everything I want in this type. Snape is a rude, disagreeable person, yet he does care about Hermione in his own way. They are easing into his sexual preference without the typical 'and then she suddenly discovers how much it turns her on.' Even after she allows herself to give in, she isn't totally his slave. And there is some other parts of the story that arent completly revolving around their relationahip. (There could be just a bit more of that) Thankyou! This is such a wonderful story!
I guess this story must have been written before we learned that Snape was a half-blood. Oh, well. I'll just think of it as AU, I guess. :-)
Good lord. So you've made it so that he really IS an abusive and controlling asshole. I'm sorry that's what you wanted to do with this story; I'm afraid I prefer happy endings in fan fiction.
Well, THAT'S a twist I didn't see coming! Very clever trick, to keep Lucius waiting in the wings like that, after we'd all written him off as disabled. :-)
I'm a Heinlein fan, too! Stranger in a Strange Land changed my life when I read it at the age of 12, so none of his other books could ever mean to me what that one did. Still, I read and re-read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Time Enough for Love, I Will Fear No Evil, and many others. Thanks for working Heinlein into this story; it's fun to see the references to his books.
Heh. Love the dream at the end.
I'm astonished that Severus would be willing to spend THREE WEEKS with Hermione's parents. One week seems like plenty to me! So I'd say he's bent over backwards to be nice ... and I'm usually on Hermione's side. :-)
Lovely ending.
The ending of this made me a bit sad, but I didn't find it 100% OOC for Severus as some other reviews have stated. Love the story - very well written. Thank you so much for sharing. :)
I liked it :) but I think the ending should have been drawn out just a little more. Because drugging someone isn't really love,or at least not in my opinion. I think it would have been better if she didn't get the potion like in the alternate ending, but they still went on the dates and got to know each other. Hermione really cared for him and it would have turned to love. But it was good overal. The other ending made me cry to be honest. It just seemed like such an un hermione thing to do...but keep writing your good :)
No, no, no, anything apart from Malfoy. LOL enjoying your contract fic very much. Like the road you are taking, uncomfortable for HG but has the bat got a sense of humour after all? We shall see as they say. Off to read some more.
Thanks.
The picture of control, honesty and choice,you paint,
is very telling. This started a lot of deep thoughts. - not least in your personal replies to people's passionate letters to you.
Please do keep writing you have a Real talent.
But you did break my heart with both your endings: that two highly intelligent people couldn't let themselves find joy and freedom with each other. together with common sense, and self- awareness, tempered with humour.
Good luck in your new life, and admiration for the bravery and strength, it must have taken to build a new life.
For now I am speechless.
On some times I thought, Goodness ist there anything other than spanking, whipping and fucking all around? This should not mean I didn´t enjoy it in some ways, and after thinking about this I had come to the Decision that your descriptions showed a lot about the live Severus and Hermione had and in which ways they tried to come together.
(I believe I should not write reviews, when I´m tired)
But your end of your Fanfiction was startling. I didn´t expect a lovely happy Couple, whom lived happily together after discussing their Problems. I expected rahter a Couple that had many Problems to deal with each other, but which were also trying.
Your take of an End, was highly surprising and unexpected, but I like it. :)
Best wishes
Dawndancer
I've just read your story and was very impressed that I was so invested in the plot. A sign of a great author is to make the characters very real to the reader. This you accomplised beautifully. However the ending was heartbreakingly dissappointing. I am not averse to un-happy endings when called for but this ending didn't ring true for me.
LOL Loved when Severus' rooms became a bit too overcrowded for his style :)
Haha, well played Albus with the "honeymoon" surprise LOL
Wow, seemed like Lucius to not give up easily..
great chapter, im looking forward to reading the rest of the fic :)
LMAO
That ending was such an anti climax.
what happened? did you get bored writing the story?
On another level the ending is humerous in its absurdity...
I thought that Snape loved her? He resorted to mind control in the end.
hhmmmm
comment?
xoxo
i thoroughly enjoyed you dissecting the power dynamic of the relationship though.
Thanks for you time and imagination
up to chapter 29 it was excellent. some minor quibbles but generally a delight to read - absolutely lapping it up! You have an amazing talent for storytelling. From 29 on however the characters seemed to fall to pieces and IMO no longer conformed with the profiles you had constructed for them thusfar - it became actually infuriating to read - and then the ending was of course just obscene. Rushed and incredibly disturbing (which is a feat considering some of the other quite prickly ideas in the story that went down smoothly) - and worst of all feeling like something tacked on at the last minute or as an afterthought. Perhaps you had grown sick of your own creations by then. It was very disappointing to have laboured with these characters for so long.. to have it all end in a manner neither satisfying nor plausible (and either of the two would have been sufficient really). It was a great story - but a rotten ending.
I've been reading this story since you first started posting it on Ashwinder, and have only now actually put fingers to keyboard to review it.
I loved the way this story was written. Excellent descriptive scenes, lots of Snarky!Snape and an interesting plot. However, the ending is too rushed and extremely disappointing. I've read both endings and feel the same way about both. Whilst the ending on Ashwinder is a more probable ending, I couldn't help but feel that it needed fleshing out a bit more, not to mention the blatant out-of-characterness of both Snape and Hermione. You did so well to keep them both in character throughout the majority of the story, only to have them change in the last couple of chapters. I'll be honest - I hated TPP ending. Not plausible at all, and also very OOC.
It's very obvious that you were getting bored of this story and wanted it finished as soon as possible for the sake for your readers. One thing I learned from writing fan fiction is that if you write purely for the sake of reviews, then your story is doomed from the start. If you ever consider re-writing any part of this, please re-do the ending chapters and preferably using the Ashwinder ending as that was the better of the two.
I have now read both endings, and I find that I disagree with you and most of your reviewers who would claim that either one was a good ending for this story. Now I don't intend this to be a flame, so please just hear me out.Certainly I, like most people, would have liked to see Hermione and Severus end up together (voluntarily) for the simple romantic appeal. But my dislike for these two endings goes beyond that.So you chose to end this story either with them splitting up or together because Severus was controlling Hermione. Great, fine, whatever - brave of you to do something outside of the normal SS/HG stories. However, I do not see the image that most of your reviewers seem to see - an author who sacrificed the popular ending for the more in-character or better-suited ending. No, what I see is an author who was consciously seeking to break the mold of happily-ever-after stories, to do something dramatic and unexpected simply because it was dramatic and unexpected. An author seeking to set up a story that intentionally seemed to follow a normal SS/HG plotline, just so that she could say, "Haha, fooled you!" at the end.Now, I certainly don't mean to suggest that doing the unexpected is a bad thing - unexpected twists and turns are what make these stories worth reading even though there are common plotlines that run through many of them. But when an author sacrifices story flow, plausibility and character for mere shock value, it falls a little flat.And yes, before you protest, I think that you did sacrifice plausibility and character. You clearly sold the ending to your audience using the Severus-is-a-control-freak ploy. But I think that it is just that - a ploy. And I think that a lot of your readers fell for it. But you can't write 30 chapters of great story (don't get me wrong, I liked the story a lot), filled with good plot and character development, and then follow this up with a chapter in which your characters have apparently regressed essentially to the way they were at the very beginning. Well, I guess you can - you're the author - but I just don't buy it. The Severus that appeared in chapter 29 was not the same Severus that featured in chapter 31 - or even chapter 30. Severus 29 realized that he loved Hermione and was beginning to regret his control-freakishness. I do not find it remotely feasible that this Severus can be the same as Severus 31 who would go right back to controlling tactics without any apparent hesitation.But what, you ask, do I expect Severus to do when just as he realizes he loves Hermione, she abandons him without a backwards glance? As it turns out, I find Hermione's characterization in the last couple of chapters equally problematic. In fact, I think that Hermione 30/31 is perhaps more out-of-character than Severus 31. Yes, I can accept that having undergone so much and suddenly having the opportunity to really have a choice for the first time, she might have some second thoughts, might want to take a break to really have some time on her own, apart from Severus, to really analyze the situation. But I do not find it remotely plausible that she would ditch Severus completely and go off to a University without resolving their issues. For one thing, Hermione Granger is not the kind of person who would go off, leave unsolved problems behind, and then make a decision on these problems once she is far removed from the situation. That is, as they call it, the coward's way out, and Hermione is nothing if not honorable and Gryffindorish.And once again, after 30 chapters in which she undergoes a great deal of character development and comes to at least like Severus (even if you don't want her to fall in love with him), I do not find it remotely plausible that she would choose to abandon him and sever all ties with him without any discussion or conversation with him whatsoever. I don't really find it likely that she would leave him at all, but even if she were going to, I do not believe for one second that she would do so without talking to him and hearing him out - after all, isn't that what she kept demanding of him throughout the story? That he not make decisions and take stances uncompromisingly, without acknowledging her perspective? So what kind of a hypocrite would she be if she really would do what you have her doing?So while you may or may not agree with me, I do think that your characters in the last chapter or two are drastically different from the people that you had shaped by the end of chapter 29. Both the control-freak Severus and the I-need-time-to-think Hermione seem to me to be very thinly veiled rationalizations for you as the author doing what you wanted to do with the story, even when it didn't really fit. And I think that is possibly the worst mistake an author can make - trying to force a story to do what she wants it to, or what she imagines it ought to do, when the story wants to go somewhere different. As I said earlier, I have no problems with an author who goes into a story with the desire to write something unexpected. Something different. Something unique. I as a writer have shared that desire many times. But I think that in your attempts to mislead us readers, to make us think that this was just like all the other SS/HG stories, you ended up writing a story that was like the other SS/HG stories. But then you still tried to make it fit your idea of what you had intended to write, and frankly, I think it shows.Now, you may not really appreciate this after all of the rest of what I just said, or you may not think me entirely sincere, but I want to make it quite clear that I definitely thought that this was a very good story - which is probably why I felt inclined to leave such a lengthy, passionate review (if I didn't like it, I wouldn't have bothered, and if I didn't like the rest of it, I wouldn't have felt so strongly about the ending). So just for the record, I thought that it was well-written, and that - as I may have hinted earlier - there was very good character development through most of it. Other than the ending, your characters were engaging, believable, consistent...which, as I said, is why the ending is so jarring and dissatisfying. Because it's so not in keeping with the rest.You probably don't agree with me, and even if you did I don't imagine that you would bother to change the ending, but it seemed that most of your readers were inclined to just accept your flimsy surface justifications for Hermione's and Severus's actions, even though these justifications were not supported by the rest of your depictions of their characters. So I felt obligated to present my perceptions, even if they goes against the majority opinion. Take it or leave it, but there it is. And thank you for the story.
Response from RachelW (Author of You Can't Have One Without The Other)
Wow, what a long review. Hmm... and it's been a while too, though I was curious what might be going on with the fanfic and thought I'd check on it.What happened the last few chapters was that I just could not write what I'd started out intending to write. When I began this story in 2004 (wow), I was working hard to make myself believe i was happy being stuck in a miserable marriage to a manipulative person who spent a lot of thought and energy keeping me from directing my energy and talents into the real world. I had few friends, and every time I began developing a friendship with anyone who was functional and somewhat available, he made sure it didn't last long. By 2008 when I finished this story I was going to school full time and working part time at a local gym, and my carefully cultivated illusion that I was happy had been completely shattered. Along with that, all my carefully concocted ideals about a promise being everything, about anything being workable, about enough love/being good enough/something else could change a person, or make a manipulator become something else.What happened at chapters 30/31 was a major shift in my understanding of the world and of people, and my best attempt to wrap up a story so I could move on with my life (I like finishing things, you see). I just could not write what I had intended when I was writing chapter 24 or therabouts... it just wouldn't happen. Dec 2008 I moved out on my own, no idea how I was going to make it. My ex has made every effort to cause me problems, and is still dragging the legal end of things on because he has to punish me for leaving him. I've had some interesting challenges, I've become self employed, I've found happiness in a great comunity where my ex can't keep me from having supportive, functional friends through manipulations like he did when I was with him, trapped mainly by my belief (which he encouraged strongly) that I was incapable of making it alone. He would use 'martial arts sparring' as a cover to 'accidentally' twist my forearms/wrists and exaserbate my tendonitis which kept me from working as a massage therapist for years.Tomorrow I'm having a ribbon-cutting cerimony with the local Chamber of Commerce to celebrate the opening of my office. I've supplemented massage income with housecleaning, freelance copy-editing (thanks to my beta-reading experience), and other odd jobs. In retrospect I've realized writing this story was a major part of coming to grips with the reality of what my marriage was, even when I didn't know that's what I was writing about. The BDSM was just the fun stuff to make the story interesting, but deep down it was about my attempt to justify to myself that I had made a terrible choice to be with someone because I believed I was incapable of being alone, and felt trapped by having a child with him. I desperately wanted to "make it right" and this story was my attempt to make something wrong right by making Hermione just be good enough to fix Snape. Manipulators, alas, don't change... and the flow of the story stopped when I tried to make wrong things be right.If anyone is interested in what I'm doing now: http://reliefbyrachel.com
While I thought the story started out pretty well, the middle got a little angsty for my taste, but I stuck it out, only to be disappointed in the end. Hermoine, in a potion-induced state of bliss. While I wouldn't put it past Snape, it's just a terrible way to end the story. I can think of a number of different endings, though, honestly, I can't think of any way to tie them to the established story.
Whoa ! I came from reading the other ending on Ashwinder and fair play to you, this is in keeping with the selfish controlling rotten Snape that she married. I was buying the potential happy ending (he's changed !) right up to the point where she drops out of college. The last bit about giving her the potion every 6-9 months is crushing - but thats how vile he is. To control her is everything.