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While You Lay Sleeping
Southern_Witch_6938 Reviews | 3.92/10 (38 Ratings, 0 Likes, 22 Favorites )
Waking up to find a man in your room isn't what you thought it would be. Snape makes a terrible decision where Hermione is concerned.
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I adore the world of HP.
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Reviews for While You Lay Sleeping
well for a second there i thought you had taken leave of your senses, writing a story about this. But in getting to the end i am glad to see it was more about punishment. thank you for sharing you views on this subject.
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
Punishment is my point. That's what people like this deserve. There's nothing hot about it, even if he hadn't touched her. I woke up when I was 15 to find my aunt's husband lying on side of me, touching my breast. It scared the fuck out of me--a grown man doing that. WTF I took off and locked myself in the bathroom.
Response from chaotics (Reviewer)
I relise how much that would scare you and i am so glad you managed to escape anything worse(not to say thats not bad cause it is really bad). it is great to see people stand up for what they think is wrong. If people dont speak out our world can never change.thank you
What he's done is purely dreadful. I could never understand why a man would do this to a girl, especially when it's just a child.
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
Men do this all the time, and the worst thing is that they get away with it!~ Sometimes the women are too scared to say anything. I couldn't let him get away with it.
I'm confused.Isn't this an underage Hermione? I thought such were not allowed on TPP?The other fic had him thinking about her but not doing anything. Many fics state that Snape had been sexually aware of her for years w/o doing anything about it. It's a common idea in SS/HG fanfic, and the other fic showed that happen. I find your response odd, to say the least.
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
I believe I spelled out her age clearly enough. Snape says by his calculation, she's sixteen due to her usage of the Time-Turner. Sixteen is the cut off age at this site. I'm well aware of the rules, having had part in writing them myself.I don't care what other fics state. I think a Snape that's been salivating over a fucking kid is disgusting. Let him notice her when she's of age. That's different. Otherwise, it's not my cup of tea.You find my response odd? That's rich.
Response from mia madwyn (Reviewer)
I find the story which is a graphic rape an odd response to a story that has no sex in it, that's all. (shrug)
And I didn't know what the cutoff was for this site, which is why I asked. Thanks for clarifying.
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
It's not a response to the other story. That's what you aren't getting. I read the other story, and then I read the reviews. I was appalled by the attitude of most of the reviewers. "Oooh, so hot." Yuck.Let them have some old man sneaking into their 14-year-old's room and see how hot that is. Shot gun, anyone?When I read that, I was inspired to write my own story of a horrible Snape in a similar situation, but having him punished for doing what he does. Most stories let him slide and don't really do anything about it... or glorify it. Sure, I looked over the other story, thought she did a good deed to not let him do anything bad to her, but that's that story. If I'd wanted to write a response to her story, I would have used the same theme and just had a different take from Hermione's view. And luckily, most stories that I've read in this fandom, and there are many, do NOT state that he's been seeing her for something more for many years. That would just be horrible, wouldn't it?
Response from mia madwyn (Reviewer)
I honestly didn't interpret most of the responses as people who thought it was hot. There were a handful of references to it being erotic and such, but most were very general in their response w/o specific mention of it turning them on and several were about cultural and historical differences in how we approach sexuality, etc., etc. Of course now, the new responses from people who have read your fic are direct attacks. Somehow, I think I'm not the only one who didn't get what you intended, although now that you've explained it I do see what you mean.
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
I haven't gone to see anything. The last I saw was the response I left to the author. I don't think anyone should go and harass anyone else. That's not what this is about. I think it's sad that people don't realize that. Most of the reviews that I read (the ones before mine) seemed as though it was okay, hot or even erotic. I think one said it was disturbing. That was swept under the rug with "Oh, but she's 14 and likes him in return, so bring on the smut soon, wooohooo, or in country, x, it would be okay, so yeah, let's do this."I shall add a line to my AN at the end.
THANK YOU. Was this in response to the reviews for the one with Pedophile in the title (I can't remember the exact title...). I remember reading those reviews a few days ago and everyone thought it was so sexy and hot and I was completely appalled that so many people seemed to think that way... what you've written is scary and accurate and needed to be written. Thank you.
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
Yes, it is. I couldn't believe that. I think out of 19 reviews there were maybe two that didn't think it was hot. I don't think that's even what the author was trying for, but that's how it turned out. I think that's what bothers me most about fandoms and such.
Anonymous
You rule. Not for writing a compelling tale, although it is, but for standing up for what you believe in, especially in a rather murky area of fandom.
I was shocked throughout the entire thing, and pleased by Dumbledore's actions. I feel for poor Hermione, but at least she won't have to live with memory.
Author's Response: Yeah, I almost wish I'd used different characters, but if I had, I don't know that it would have had the same impact. It just seemed like something I could weave into canon. There are just lines that shouldn't be crossed. And I chose to write about one. :) Thanks for reading.
Dear SouthernWitch,This is a very powerful story and should be required reading. I, too, am disturbed at times by what creeps into fan fic. Severus POV is chilling -- the rationalization, the projection of her desire, subtly placing the responsibility for his attraction on her, how he speaks his self justifying words to her intimately, as if it were a mutual encounter, his casual attitude towards her death. The switch in tone when he meets DD is dramatic -- we suddenly are torn out of his twisted world and see what he is and what he has done for what it is. That's especially powerful device given the reason you wrote this as stated in the AN. And his realization that he now feels what Hermione felt is, I'm certain, something every victim would wish on her or his attacker (in addition to the castration).Brava on use of fanfic to convey a powerful theme. RedRoo
Response from RedRoo45 (Reviewer)
Forgot to say that it's a misnomer to call this tale "twisted". The main action it portrays is twisted, not your telling it like it is.
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
Thank you so much for saying all of this. You've nailed it exactly. I worked hard to create his "mindset" throughout. I think these fuckers don't fully realize what they are doing and then do things for the most ridiculous reasons, yet the reasoning seems normal to them.I appreciate it.
I like that you've shown that a fifteen year old Hermione is not an appropriate partner for Severus. Sure, a 20 year age difference is not an issue when one is 20 and 40, or 40 and 60, or 80 and 100. But when one is 15, that is too young.Snape deserved it!
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
I remember my friend's creepy uncle passing by my mom's cafe and waving at me all the time. He was just gross. They caught him standing nude in front of his windows every morning when a school bus would pass. He called me once, and I told my dad right away and gave him the phone. The man never called again.Yucko.Heh, that said, my hubby is about 18 years older than me, but there's no way I would have hooked up with him or been allowed to hook up with him while underage. I met him at 22. :)
Response from CharmedForce (Reviewer)
Oi, I remember the lecture I got when I was 19 and flirting with a 31 year old over the summer. My dad wanted to get me a concealed-weapons permit, "just in case". It's rather difficult to reassure your parents that nothing is going to happen when all you really want is something to happen, but I was ready at that point. I couldn't imagine being in that situation a year or two earlier.
Amen sister! I see no reason to try to "rehabilitate" child molestors and I don't find it sexy in the least. As for the rehabilitation part, it seems to me something like this: I like men so if someone came to me tomorrow and said 'from now on you have to be gay' it simply wouldn't work for me because that's not what turns me on and so, I'd naturally "stray" back to men. I know there are power issues as well with predators, but the bottom line is that fucking children turns them on. That fact won't change and so rehabilitation is not even an option IMO.As for it being sexy - just no. I do find many stories of Hermione as a seventh year with Sev still her teacher to be sexy BUT ony when a. the feelings are mutually reciprocated (save MLC's which are designed - usually - to come around to that end eventually) or b. they are two consenting adults and Hermione gets out her old school robes for some frisky bedtime play with Severus - and this is always when Hermione is well out of school so of course the uniform no longer fits 'appropriately' lol. But as a true predatory act - absolutely not!Well written and yes, I thought giving a predator his due at the end was a very good way to wrap this one up.
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
Statistics show that most are never really "cured" from their desires. And then the repeat offender rate is through the roof. It's times like these that I wish the famillies would be allowed to do as they would, ya know? I don't mind seventh-year Hermione / Snape stories, but right, only if it's a mutual thing and so on. It just depends. I don't like chan, I don't like younger Hermione with older Snape, and I don't like anything being forced. I'll still read anything, so long as it's not glorified. :) Thanks! :))
After reading this, I'm definitely glad I'm not a man!
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
LOL at your emoticon! hahaha Snippity snip.
Response from notsosaintly (Reviewer)
And it kinda looks like Snape too, which was extra funny. I tried to look for something that was a little more vulgar, but surprise surprise I couldn't find anything. If I find one, I'll share though!
Response from notsosaintly (Reviewer)
Remember your author note? Well, I found this on deviant art and thought of you.link: http://freakylaurent.deviantart.com/art/Pickled-Peter-26569738
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
omg.... hahahahahah!!!!
Response from notsosaintly (Reviewer)
Thought you'd like that. Odd that I found it. Makes you wonder, though, how did they get all of those?
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
they almost look like little oddly shaped potatoes. haha
Response from notsosaintly (Reviewer)
Hmm. yeah, maybe. The one on the bottom looks folded. If they are potatoes, that is really creative. Can you imagine working at an office and having that on your desk? No one would fuck with you. Well, no man, and probably half the women. *tee hee*
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
I'm totally gonna have to create something like this. Ahahahaha!!! I can see Dylan now. "Mom, why do you have a jar of privates on your desk?"hjahaha
Response from notsosaintly (Reviewer)
I can see you now, the next time you go to the supermarket, going through the bin of potatoes looking for oddly strange-shaped ones. (couldn't resist that)
Definitely not sexy, hot or erotic. Sick, twisted and grr comes to mind. It was very painful, but frighteningly real to read (my fingers constantly kept poking my eyes to hide them). It's good to find a story that doesn't glorify the 'creepy old man' scenario for once.
I give you a 5/5 for the cringe factor. All his manly bits gone?! *shudder*
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
Thanks for reading and commenting. I told my beta, "I can't believe I wrote this shit." Yuck. Not my thing at all, but inspiration hit, and it had to come out. :)
Creepy, liked it when snape is confronted by Dumbledore.
I'm eighteen years old, with a past of incestual rape starting from when I was six to when I was eight. I have a part-time job at a office, babysit my one year old nephew, have been volunteering at a women's shelter whenever I have the time since I was sixteen, and aim to join the Peace Corps. I consider myself a nice, hardworking and productive member of my community, even if I can be a bit bitchy at times. It's sick. It's scary. It's wrong. It's not the great fantasy one might make it out to be.You know you're talking about me, right? You just informed me that my fantasies of fictional rape is wrong. I fantasize -- often, I might add -- of Hermione 'put in her place' and degraded and raped. Sometimes underage, sometimes not. Either way, I fantasize about it, and I think it's hot if the author writes it well. I also fantasize of happy relationships, missionary position and bratlings sleeping in a room down the hall. But you don't care about that, do you? I'm sick, I'm disgusting, and I'm wrong because I can get wet reading or thinking about a fictional character getting raped and degraded and the monster who did it not punished so extravagantly as Snape was in your fic. You don't seem to understand that people like me don't get off to real occurrences of rape. I don't watch the news, fingering myself when I hear my favorite newscaster informing us of a local rape in the community. I sit there and I watch it and I curl my lip and I wonder if I can get a mob started to blast down the fucker's door and torture him and cut off his balls and make sure he can never do it again. Thank you for informing me that I'm wrong and disgusting and disturbed. I shall remember it fondly.
Author's Response:
I said these words, "It's sick, It's scary, It's wrong," referring to men who do this. As a person who lived through incestual rape for those years, would you not agree that what he/she did was wrong? Sick? Horrible? Definitely not the fantasy material?It's not. I was there already from a very young age in my life, and the fuckers who did these things to me are monsters. Sure, I never told on them, and yes, they got away with it. I still see them going about their happy little lives today (except one who has passed away), but I still think they are sick mother fuckers who took something from me that can never be returned.When I was old enough to make the decision to have sex on my own, I was so warped in the fucking head that I didn't make good decisions.As far as you reading the story about a rape / whatever and getting turned on, to each his own, dear. That's something you have to deal with. As a person who has lived through this shit, I can only say this repulses me (the situation portrayed), and I never can understand how someone can think that it's erotic. I suppose I'm too angry and bitter to even let any other emotion in, and I immediately dislike the asshole committing the crime.So before you go leave a long, ranty review, saying things that make sense, yet are coming in on a WRONG angle, maybe you should re-read the notes first to make certain you won't be making an ass of yourself. I wasn't calling people like you sick or wrong, though to be honest, I don't approve. I was talking about the predators.Now, if you still feel "sick" or "wrong" after I've explained that I was talking about the fucking predator--not the victims!--then you must have those feelings about yourself already and are just trying to find an outlet to express that or vent about it.~roasts marshmellows with your wannabe flame~
Response from treeson (Reviewer)
I may be throwing a steak to a dog, but I believe my original view of your Author's Note was correct. I even quoted from it as you showed me in your response.Maybe in the future, however, you should clarify who exactly you are calling disturbed and freaks so 'wannabe flamer's' like me will not misread your meaning. So helpful for the demented, ya know?And, actually, you referring to the predator is not true. I've read your responses to others in the past. You even attacked my friend's character on your LJ when she posted a chan fic. I read it before you edited, backpedaled, then privated the post. But I can just cite you to prove my point:You stated yourself that you were motivated to write this fic by the people who thought the original fic was "so hot." &"I was more shocked that so many people thought older!Snape panting over a young girl was “hot” or “erotic” just because of the sexual tone of the tale.""As a person who lived through incestual rape for those years, would you not agree that what he did was wrong? Sick? Horrible? Definitely not the fantasy material?"Thank you for twisting my words so wonderfully, You do it so well. I like it, actually, because I can say right here and now that my rapist similarly got away with what was done to me. He is happily married and I still have fantasies of chan and rape. But it was a worthy try of correcting my woefully ignorant and emotionally stunted kink, however. (There's the sarcasm.)"As a person who has lived through this shit, I can only say this repulses me (the situation), and I never can understand how someone can think that it's erotic."That's the thing, dearie, you don't have to understand. To each his own, just like you said. I suppose I'm too angry and bitter to even let any other emotion in, and I immediately dislike the asshole committing the crime.I never said I didn't dislike the perpertrator, did I? No. So, you can misread words too it seems.It's the thing I love about well-written rape or chan fics, where the author makes me want to cuddle the man (or women if the rapist is a woman) and be disgusted with myself for wanting to do so because of his or her crimes. It distorts reality and can make a person like me want to take a shower and masturbate while cleaning off the dirtiness.Having rape fics all ending in WOE and PAIN for the perpertrator and the victim would make the outer edges of fandom painfully dull, where no good authors could make a story that simealtaneously arouses and repulses you. It's a rare author that can do that, and that is the sort of rape fic I love. Now, if you still feel "sick" or "wrong" after I've explained that I was talking about the fucking predator--not the victims!--then you must have those feelings already and are just trying to find an outlet to express that or vent about it.And there's the second act of misreading words. (Or should this be considered twisting my words again? I'm unsure so I'll just put both.) I never accused you of talking about the victims. I would never do that, because it would be mind boggling to me to meet someone who did blame the victims for their own rape. Hopefully, you aren't projecting. Second, please tell me what part of my review made you feel as if someone like myself -- who volunteers at a fucking women's shelter -- would blame the victim because what you said makes absolutely no damn sense. I know the line between fantasy and reality. If you don't and believe every pervert like me who gets off on reading rape/chan likes to molest their nephews or/and nieces at the family barbecue, then you are woefully ignorant of the average person's fantasy of rape according to most psychology texts.It's as common as herpes.<3
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
AH, so the truth comes out. You're not here whinging about my story or author's notes, you're here making something out of nothing to try to give one to mean old SW for thinking your badly of your friend. I didn't backpeddle a fucking thing. What I said in my post is still my fucking opinion, and I only locked it b/c your mate asked me to. I think jacking off to a kid getting raped is Fucking Disgusting. I don't give a piss if it's fiction or not. And I don't give a fuck if you do it either. Yuck. Do I think you're gross for it? Certainly. Perhaps you should speak to someone. That definitely helped me out when I realized I was confused sexually and the root of the problem (abuse/rape/repeated moletstation, etc).And... I'm only saying this because you brought it up, dear. My author's notes are referring to the nasty fucker raping/abusing people. When you responded so angrily, I had to go back and read again to make certain you were the victim and not the predator, as that should have been the only way those words would have pertained to you.Sick. Scary. Wrong. And then this part... I never accused you of talking about the victims. **Um, duh, yes, you did. You said that I must be talking about you (sick, wrong, etc) b/c you fantasize about it and had this happen to you. That was the whole point to your first post, and you ended it by saying thanks, you'd always remember that someone called you these things. Snerk. Drama, anyone?But I see what you're doing now. I'm sure your little mate will appreciate the little rant on her behalf. It's certainly tied me up twice today. Good job. Interestingly enough, I talked to her, and she was fine with it. We agreed to disagree.I didn't twist your words. I asked you a fucking question. How is asking a fucking question twisting words? And I didn't ask if you still have fantasies about it. Who gives a fuck about that? Keep that nastiness to yourself in a public review. Post that shit on your own fucking LJ. I asked if you did not agree that what the asshole who did this to you was sick, wrong, scary, and definitely not the stuff fantasies are made of. You're the only one twisting words. Snerk. And doing a bad job of it. You still didn't answer the question. I don't care if he's happily married and all that rubbish. Do you not think what he did was horrible? It's a yes or no question. And if the answer is yes, then you fucking agree that it was wrong, sick, scary, not fantasy material. You're the one trying to take umbrage over authors notes where I'm clearly talking about the predator, I shan't even quote them again for you, as if you went back and read them again and still didn't get it, you likely still won't. It almost makes no sense to exchange discourse with you, as you come out of left field and don't address what's been put forth. Like the whole, "What part of my review made you think..." LOL ~just brilliant~ Once again, you're completely out the box and not understanding plain text. Poor dear.And bitches out there sometimes do blame the victims. I had an aunt who said, "Well, if you hadn't had on that pretty, white strapless dress..." Another enabler needing to be taken out back and have the shit beat out of them. Why shouldn't someone be able to wear something nice to a wedding? Or anyplace for that fucking matter?And wtf? Other responses in the past that I've made about the fantasizer or whoever? So what? That was then when I was disgusted by raping a 12 year old was glorified. Damn right I thought/think that's sick. This is something totally different. If you'd read all the fucking author's notes you'd see it said that I read that reviews and was appalled that people thought it was hot. Then I said my muse prompted me to write a story where an asshole does something and gets punished for it. I felt in the mood for writing something dark, and I'll not apologize for it. Hopefully I made it terrible enough that even the abuse/rape lovers thought it was disturbing.Just move the fuck on if you still don't get it. I don't have time to slowly explain things over and again when it's plainly written out already.
Response from treeson (Reviewer)
Now I know I was definitely throwing a steak to a dog. A rabid one, with froth at the mouth and a terrible gleam in it's eyes.I'm not going to go into every little passive-aggressive thing you said (mainly because I'm not stupid enough to give you more ammo for your self-delusions of adequacy), but I will reiterate the points I stated out clearly in my first and second responses.1. You were not attacking the predator or victim of real life rape. Not even fictional rape victims and predators. You were attacking people like me who think fictional rape/chan is hot in certain circumstances that people choose on their own due to their varied likes and dislikes of the kink. You attacked it brutally, with Hermione dying of asphyxiation during the act and Snape becoming impotent at the end. Though it was an interesting view into Snape the schizoid’s mind, I’ll give you that. Then you drove another stake into the kink-lovers with your Author's Note.2. Your kink for cuddles and sweet nothings is not better than my kink. My kink of pain and bite marks is not better than yours. And that's all the points. I will, however, say this in response to your second reply.And I don't give a fuck if you do it either. Yuck. Do I think you're gross for it? Certainly. Perhaps you should speak to someone.You obviously do care, SW, if you think I should go to a psychiatrist for my obviously wrong love of rape/chan fics. But do I tell you to go to a psychiatrist because not all relationships have love and whispered endearments and you’re obviously living in a delusion of your own making? No. I do not. Live and let live is my motto for almost everything, while obviously yours is Live and let live -- but only if you have good, normal fantasies and never have a thought outside the norm.And I'm sorry, but not everything is about you. I didn't come here looking for a fight. I came to read SS/HG and just happened to see your new story. I didn't like it or the Author's note, so I reviewed and told you my thoughts. I didn't come here for my friend, and she knows this already. I posted my opinion about fighting another person's battle in my LJ. I started this, I reviewed this for me. If you're so used to people taking over your battles, fine by me, but don't say the same of me. You and I are two totally different people. Thankfully.**Um, duh, yes, you did. You said that I must be talking about you (sick, wrong, etc) b/c you fantasize about it and had this happen to you. That was the whole point to your first post, and you ended it by saying thanks, you'd always remember that someone called you these things. Snerk. Drama, anyone?If you had read my first review thoroughly, you would have realized I never referred to myself as a victim. I have a past of incest rape, but I was never a victim of it. I got through it, I survived, and I conquered my past and live in the present. I don't cry about what happened to me. I lived it and fought through it and both experiences have shaped me to be law-abiding citizen I am. If you can't get past it, I'm sorry, but don't project your victimization onto me. I have never been a victim of anything but a severe case of inherited anemia and a few bad hair days.I was actually referring to you calling someone like me -- a normal person who although has a past with incestual rape that now has a normal life and dreams of joining the Peace Corps to help the world -- a sick, wrong, demented freak. You just took everything out of context and fixated on one thing, not reading the rest of it, hoping I would backpedal like you’re so fond of doing.Now who's making the drama? I have only been calm and although a little bit angry, I never attacked you personally. I never once told you to go to a psychiatrist for help, nor did I call you a disgusting, demented freak because not all stories end with sunsets and happiness. But I suppose you don't care about that. I disagreed with the almighty, all-knowing SW, and therefore must be woefully ignorant, dumb and wrong.I hope you approve of this response, however, since I have lowered myself to your level of name-calling, though not your amount swearing. You must be thoroughly pleased with yourself.Me? I'm just amused you think so highly of your morals while you sit there and judge and harass anyone who disagrees with you. The hypocrisy is so very entertaining.<3
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
I'm not very rabid, dear, but I'll answer to any little wanker who leaves pissy reviews for me. And I'm not the only one who thinks your little replies are out the box or that your little deluded ass needs help. Hahaha...Number one. You were not attacking the predator or victim of real life rape. ..."No, you don't say! Are you certain this isn't real? Wow..." Are you this stupid, hon? I'm writing out the situation and ending it the way I'd see fit. It has nothing to do with you or any little chan lovers you might hang out with. It's a fucking story. You just don't like it because of the author's note where I said I was shocked about people thinking something else was hot. So fucking what? Get over it.Number two. Your kink for cuddles and sweet nothings is not better than my kink. You dare to presume to know what my kinks are? Cuddles and sweet nothings? Hahaha. That's fucking hilarious. You've apparently not read many of my stories.Next: You obviously do care, SW, if you think I should go to ...Now you've found something I didn't word right. Let me make this plainer. I don't care to hear your little love of a child being degraded and put in her place. It just repulses me, mate.Next: And I'm sorry, but not everything is about you. LOL. Who said that? That never crossed my mind. And not everything is about you, and that's what you made this out to be. Poor Treeson who's kink got picked on in someone's author's notes. How dare someone disagree and be grossed out by it?!!Next : Live and let live is my motto for almost everything, while obviously yours is Live and let live -- but only if you have good, normal fantasies and never have a thought outside the norm.No, my motto is: And This Too Shall Pass.Always does.Next: I didn't like it or the Author's note, so I reviewed and told you my thoughts.No, that's not all you did. You made it into something personal saying I'd said things about YOU and YOUR KIND and so the fuck on... ~yawn~Other people said they didn't like it. I don't either. There's a difference.Next: If you're so used to people taking over your battlesBwahaahaha... That will never happen. I don't need anyone to speak up for me. I'm blunt enough on my own, thanks. Not sure what your point with this even is. Amusing.Next: You and I are two totally different people. Thankfully.Something we agree on.Next: If you had read my first review thoroughly, you would have realized I never referred to myself as a victim. I never said you called your self a victim. I called you a victim. I put you in the category as anyone else who was abused... victims. Sure, you've survived it, etc., but you were once a victim. I'm certain you didn't ask for it.next: I was actually referring to you calling someone like me -- a normal person who although has a past with incestual rape that now has a normal life and dreams of joining the Peace Corps to help the world -- a sick, wrong, demented freak. Here's where I will call you ignorant, doll. How many fucking times does it have to be spelled out that I was talking about the one doing it as the sicko, the one in the wrong? You're quite dense. Don't you know enough by now to know that if I'd wanted to say something "People who like this is nasty, etc, that I would have?" I've said that before on my LJ about that situation. No reason why I wouldn't say it again if that's what I intended.I don't appreciate you keep saying I backpedal. What do I backpedal about? I'm uncertain. I've never hid behind words. I say what I mean. I can't help it if someone comes along and tries to read something else into it, which I'm certain you did, and I'm starting to thing you did it purposely... just to stir shit and take a poke.Next: Now who's making the drama?You still are, dear. Otherwise, why are you still here?Next: I disagreed with the almighty, all-knowing SW, and therefore must be woefully ignorant, dumb and wrong.Hilarious. People disagree with me all the time. Daily. You don't hear them crying about it. So what? I think everyone should have their own opinions about anything, but I'll be damned if someone is going to come over to my LJ / story and say that I shouldn't have one or that it's wrong. My dislike for the nastiness you enjoy is my decision. The fun part about all this is that I wasn't trying to take a poke at chan lovers / rape enjoyers. Perhaps I'll write about that next. Then you'll have something to really rant and be offended about.Next: I never once told you to go to a psychiatrist for help, nor did I call you a disgusting, demented freak because not all stories end with sunsets and happiness. You wouldn't believe how talking to someone openly puts things into perspective. Especially when we have less than pleasant thoughts about things.Isn't lovely that all stories don't end with sunsets and happiness? Boring indeed. I still think you have me confused with someone else. HahahaNext: I hope you approve of this response, however, since I have lowered myself to your level of name-calling, though not your amount swearing.LOL Swearing. I laugh everytime I hear someone say, "Oh, you cuss or swear!" This isn't the 1950's anymore. Some people actually use the word FUCK on a regular basis. Don't tell me that you get into a chan /rape stories and enjoy reading it, but be offended by cussing?Next: I'm just amused you think so highly of your morals while you sit there and judge and harass anyone who disagrees with you. I know my morals aren't the best. Never will be. But I'm still glad I don't get off on a child's / victim's pain when reading about it. That would make me feel terrible about myself, though SOME people seem to be proud of it.I don't harass anyone who disagrees with me. I exchange discourse with people about things sometimes. I guess I get annoyed when trying to explain something to someone who doesn't comprehend things well and keeps bringing up unrelated things to make a point that's not even part of the initial discussion.It's "amusing" for me as well. I can't stop thinking, "Poor thing..."Next:The hypocrisy is so very entertaining.Something else we agree on then. Cheers<3 SW69
Response from treeson (Reviewer)
I could spend the next two weeks trying to figure out where the hell you get your twisted sense of self-entitlement, but I have enough crazy in my day-to-day life without your specialized blend.I only have a few (okay, a lot) words before I end this.I'm not very rabid, dear, but I'll answer to any little wanker who leaves pissy reviews for me. And I'm not the only one who thinks your little replies are out the box or that your little deluded ass needs help. Hahaha…See, there you go right from the beginning. Proving my point for me. Thank you. I applaud you.If you don’t understand what you’ve done, I’ll spell it out for you. Basically you just admitted you and your little dogs collectively believe I should go to a psychiatrist because I can think a rape fiction that lets off the perpetrator is good. It’s called my opinion, and as I’ve been saying since my first reply, it is not wrong, demented or sick. Just because your group of friends believe the same as you doesn’t mean it’s right. I could even say that you and everyone else is a lemming for following the norm and never going outside your comfort zone. I don’t do that, however, because I know that rape and chan is not everyone’s cup of tea. Do you think I was immediately attracted to rape and chan fics? Hell no. I thought it was scary and too close to home for me to go remotely near. But I tried it, and surprisingly enough for me, I liked the one I read. It was well-written and went into the parts of the psyche that most writers are afraid to go into. I read more and liked the majority of them.That’s what I’ve been saying from my first review on. That you calling me sick and twisted because my preferences are not exactly like yours is wrong. I’m not wrong for liking something, to prefer angst and pain over anything else. I’m not wrong for delving into my emotions and morals and twisting them into a tight little ball until I tear up, like some rape and chan fictions can do to me. I’m not wrong for edging the line of my comfort zone just as you are not wrong for not glorifying rape.It saddens me that a person of your age, who is supposed to be an adult, would think that vulgarity and crassness gets their point across. Maybe my generation really is the better one if people like you are all your generation has. But that would be condemning a whole generation of my family and friends and bosses along with you, so maybe it's just you.And to be truthful, I'm not offended by swear words. I can spew them with the same preciseness as any down-home country boy. But I was taught that fuck and shit and damn does not win arguments, nor does it make you look like an adult. You can use them for clarifying a matter beyond all doubt, but fuck as every other word is just downright childish and speaks of ill breeding. Thank you for proving my mama right.But enough attacking your immaturity. I had hoped to keep the attacking of personal characters out of this reply, because I think your reply was enough for the both of us, but it just. won’t. stop. “I don’t harass anyone who disagrees with me.”I think all the wank in your journal speaks for itself. I still remember that nasty situation that almost turned into a witch-hunt for my friend. Who started it? I can’t seem to remember… I never said you called your self a victim. I called you a victim. I put you in the category as anyone else who was abused... victims. Sure, you've survived it, etc., but you were once a victim. I'm certain you didn't ask for it.Now I’m starting to think you do this shit intentionally. Twisting my words and backpedaling to try and make me feel bad for misunderstanding your intent. Which I don’t. Not every girl who has been raped is a victim. Sure, they were raped and abused, but a few strong of women (and men) never believe themselves as a victim. It’s demeaning to some, just like it is to me. You might think of yourself as a victim, but like I stated before, don’t put me in with you. I have never been a victim. A sick, perverted little boy abused a defenseless child, but I never let it make me into a victim. And I’m not saying the men and women who think of themselves as victims are weak. Everyone has their way of dealing with things. Mine was to become stronger because of my experience and keep my past where it belongs. Behind me.But if you still think I’m sick and perverted for liking something you don’t, I can be satisfied that at least I stood up and never changed my arguments or privated my views to console anyone. Because it’s my view and my opinion and no one else has the right to comment on them or call me wrong because I don’t have cookie-cut fantasies. If you’ll look through my replies, I never once said your views are dead wrong. I recognize that you and most of your little friends don’t like rape-fics. I respect that, but I continually keep telling you that claiming me and people like myself are wrong for liking what you don’t is not right, is not correct. It’s wrong.But you still aren’t getting any of this are you? I should have listened when someone emailed me and told me that it wasn’t worth the fight, that you would never get over your biased and rose-tinted views. I’ll listen better next time and save the fight for a worthy opponent. Next: Now who's making the drama?You still are, dear. Otherwise, why are you still here?The hypocrite strikes again.And if you didn’t understand what I meant before, about ending this, it means that this is my last reply. You can bitch and moan and say fuck all you want, I’m not going to go around in circles with you. I know where I stand, and I know where you stand. There’s absolutely no reason for me to waste anymore time trying to get through to you. I’ve wasted enough already.<3
Response from Southern_Witch_69 (Author of While You Lay Sleeping)
Proving my point for me. Thank you. I applaud you.Cheers. :)It’s called my opinion, and as I’ve been saying since my first reply, it is not wrong, demented or sick.See, that's my point, dear. I never said you were sick or wrong or demented until you brought it up. My words were aimed at those who take advantage/abuse others, but if you inisist on claiming those words to describe you, have at it.Basically you just admitted you and your little dogs collectively believe I should go to a ...Now, see here, bitch, you've gone too far. Don't call my friends little dogs. What have they got to do with this? Someone emailed me and made snarky comments about your reviews--someone I've only seen once or twice. So shut the fuck up about my friends. They've nothing to do with this.Do you think I was immediately attracted to rape and chan fics?I don't care. Don't want to know. That you calling me sick and twisted because my preferences are not exactly like yours is wrong.You started this by saying I must have been talking about you. Sure, after you kept whinging and bringing up you, your likes, your kind, things YOU enjoy, etc., I did comment on my feelings. So? You brought that on yourself.It saddens me that a person of your age, who is supposed to be an adult, would think that vulgarity and crassness gets their point across. I'm such a vulgar person. Why just today I said, "Let me answer this fucking phone." Gasp! I'll always say fuck if I fucking feel like it and guess what? I don't give a FUCK what you think about it. ...along with you, so maybe it's just you.LOL. I can totally tell you're still a kid in many ways.but fuck as every other word is just downright childish and speaks of ill breeding. Ill breeding? Are you speaking ill of my family now? Watch yourself. Seriously. Those kinds of things get people hurt. Bringing your own mother into it? Don't go there. I'll only say it once. Me is one thing, but not my family and not my friends. And what were you saying about immatur