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Sleeping Beauty
chivalric29 Reviews | 5.03/10 (29 Ratings, 0 Likes, 30 Favorites )
Counterpart to "Searching For a Book." Same story - from Hermione's POV.
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chivalric
Member Since 2007 | 65 Stories | Favorited by 776 | 213 Reviews Written | 4,182 Review Responses
Located in Germany. Female, around 40. The first chapters of my published novels/novellas can be found here on the archive.
Other than writing, I am reading, cycling, running, and singing in a choir.
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Reviews for Sleeping Beauty
Great chapter! I would of loved to be able to read more.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Thank you for reading and reviewing!
Naughty Hermione!!! I can't wait to read the sequel to this story.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
I'm currently reworking the last chapter - it should be up in two weeks or so. Thanks for reading and reviewing!
Sexy, but it does make me a little uncomfortable. I think that that discomfort is partially the consent issue and partially your narration of Hermione continually pushing boundaries and crossing lines. I'm looking forward to the next installment and I hope that the two of them confess, clearly, their great desires for the other. And then more with your well-written smut!
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
That was the sole intention - a bit of PWP after a few too many sweet/dark fics I've written beforehand. The consent-issue I won't discuss; done it a bit too excassively in other answers ;-) Hermione pushing boundaries and crossing lines, though, is perfectly in character for her, although never before under such delicate circumstances...The sequel is in betaland; I hope I can post it soon. Thanks for reading and reviewing! Oh, and more smut won't be a problem at all *g*
LOL! I loved this!!! I'm grinning like mad. What a fun, different little smutlet. I was looking for exactly this today so I'm so glad I found it. :) I can't wait to read the sequel!
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Smutlet - what a nice word! The sequel is in betaland, but I will try to post it soon. Thanks for reviewing!
oh yea! thanks!
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Always my pleasure, dear ;-)
Cute bit of pr0n.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Writing some porn was exactly my intention ;-) Thanks for reviewing!
Yay, a sequel!!! I'm so glad! I lke this even more than Searching for a book....Great work!!!
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Thank you, dear! Sequel should be up sort of soon. It's still in betaland...
Anonymous
That's a really well-written, funny story. I found it highly amusing and the scientific approach of Hermione rather sweet, and so typical for a girl like her. The erotic content is a little bit too explicit for my personal taste, but I don't have any problems with the fact that Snape is asleep. Of course its not right and rather naughty what Hermione does, but - having parents that were both teachers - I would rather see the problem Snape could have legally were they cauhgt, not with her taking advantage of him. It is not as if Hermione had any power over him, or as she had put him under pressure in any way, seduced him, fed him a potion or whatever. In this I see a large difference to many fics I have seen so far about the subject.
I've asked my husband for his opinion, too. He knows enough about my Fanfiction addiction to know about the characters well enough, though he usually doesn't read any FF. He was very amused, too, and said most men would probably dream about something like this to happen. He did't sense anything remotely feeling like rape, he said.
Author's Response: Hi, hon!
Thanks so much for reading and reviewing, and special thanks for bringing your husband in. I've got three male opinions by now, saying that, under certain circumstances, this is just a highly erotic situation.
Of course Snape would have a huge problem were they caught, and in his dream, he even tries to push her away once he realises he dreams about a student. But then, for him it is only a dream, and one can dream what one wants to dream about. Even about having sex with a student.
The sequel will pick up events a few years later, when she's out of school. I hope I can post it soon.
Hugs from the lake!
I did as the Author wanted and read both chapters first before reviewing (only then I went back to all the reviews).As usual, both excellently well-writtem and interesting short stories, but I fail to understand the accusations of rape. I am a heterosexual male and absolutely adored the stories. Obviously, I am completely against any form of rape, which in my book, is someone who stalks wearing a blacked-out face with a knife in his (or her) hand or something awful that happens to a person totally against their will or desire.Some of you are forgetting that Severus' inner character would certainly NOT have disagreed to what happened to him as it's actually a fantasy of most heterosexual males.So, I say more, please, Chivalric. Well done again!
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Lots of hugs and many, many bounces, dear!Now is maybe the best time for apologising having pestered you to read the stories ;-)Thanks a lot for your opinion, though. You put in words what I couldn't: rape is something awful, and that what happens in these stories is enjoyed by both parts. Hugs again. I'm working on your story. Guess what: it's called "Bounce".
Since you're considering sequels, it might be interesting if Hernione got pregnant. How would she explain that?
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Of course she didn't get pregnant - she might have been driven by lust, but she is a very capable witch and only gets pregnant when she wants to ;-)Thanks for reading and reviewing!
Response from Crystal Quill (Reviewer)
Ahhh! Magic! How convenient! Still, I think Hermione should be accountable for her actions.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
She'll have to deal with what she's done to Snape, and I think she will end up not being too happy with herself. But well, that's a question for the sequel ;-)Magic - yes, comes in handy at times...
Dubious consent and out-of-character aside, I enjoyed this story, part one and part two. I'm glad to hear there will be a follow up.You know I admire your work. The details of your writing and the style. I'm even more amazed to know that English is not your native language.You are one of my favorites, Chivalric
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
OOC? Tsk, tsk, I don't think so ;-) She just takes what she wants, I say!Thanks a lot for reading and reviewing. Occasionally, I struggle with the English language, but my lovely betas always make things right.
It is really interesting to see just how much reaction this story (and it's 'prequel') has evoked from readers.I can understand the comments regarding this as being a kind of 'rape' for SS but, seeing as the whole thing is fictional in the first place and happening to fictional characters, I guess that may be a slight over-reaction. However, I tend to agree with debjunk who points out that, as it's Hermione's first time, why would she choose to have it with someone, not only asleep, but whom, in 'reality', she actually hates and is afraid of?Although I actually think this is a good, well written story, I have to point out that (in my opinion), more than anything else, you have Hermione so out of character.
There is no way a 'virgin' would be bold enough to do the things she did (no matter how 'turned on' she may suddenly find herself or how much 'asleep' she considers the object of her desire to be.) This becomes even more implausible as you have already explained about her feelings for Ron with whom she wants to consummate her relationship. So much of this is OOC - saying of Snape, for example, 'She adored him for sneering at others'. It's just not HG. Not so very long ago I didn't really like the whole SS/HG thing but, there are so many good stories about these two written on this site, that I can now almost confess to accepting (if not exactly liking) these two together. However, that is based very much on the maturity of Hermione when involved with Snape; not as a young, virginal student.I really like your other work and, like many others here, in no way mean to critisise this story which, in essence, is really good. However, although fiction is all about escape and fantasy, I guess good stories are only really that because the reader can believe in the characters as they are portrayed and, within reason, see them staying within the realms of behaviour that they have become accustomed to seeing them in.I still rate this story highly and love so many of your phrases. 'Wasn't it forbidden for teachers to have private parts?...' is just brilliant (and so true!) I look forward to reading 'Snowstorm' and wonder if it will create such a tidal wave of response/reviews as this! :-)
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Happens rarely that I correct a story because of a review, but I just did it here: I took out the "adored him sneering" bit, as initially, the sentence was phrased differently, then got corrected by my betas, and ended up the way it is. And as that was not what I had meant to say, I took it out. Right. OOC? Ouch, that hurt! And I don't agree, of course ;-) My Hermione is - frankly - not like most fandom Hermiones. She is stronger, more stubborn, she is more human and less friendly. She takes what she wants, she has needs, and she doesn't allow anyone to push her about. No big-eyed innocent girl: a young woman, intelligent, and not without flaws. So here you go: she's a virgin, and yes, I think she would do exactly what she did once her need got the better of her. She would argue with herself, she would try and find to righten her actions, and only because she is so young and innocent, she dares to do something so very immoral. Were she older, she would want him to participate, of course. IMO, a week and suffering and dreaming/longing Hermione without doing something about it is OOC. I just checked; I never said she hates him and I didn't say she fears him. She fancies him, which is of course the only thing that's really OOC and the reason why I usually put him under the shower before she grabs hold of him *g*I would like to know how you like the sequel once my beta is through with it. They will be both older then, but she will be still my Hermione :-) Thanks a lot for taking the time to read and review!
It was fun to read when Snape realised he had actually "dreamt" about Hermione, and the emotion it sparked on her.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
More emotions ahead, I promise! Thanks for reading and reviewing.
And oh goodie, there's a third part coming!! Curiosity is simply irresistable...and in the long run, it's very good for them both! Very nicely done.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
It's in the caring hands of my beta, and I think I will nudge her a bit to speed up ;-)I agree - Hermione is very curious, and yes, in the long run, it is the best for them both. Thanks for reviewing!
I find it disturbing that H would have her very first time not only be with someone unconscious, but also someone she had no real feelings for as she's hot on Ron.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
? Who says she has no feelings for Snape? True, she's not in love with him, but well, she doesn't have to for fancying him. She certainly thinks about him dragging her to bed, and she regrets that this is a highly unlikely thing to happen. And Ron is a disappointment, as he doesn't even kiss her. She is in need, and she wants more. Her decision who she choses for her first time, I say, and if it is Snape, even better. That he is asleep, though, is a different matter, of course. Anyway - I stop babbling now and say thanks a lot for reading and reviewing!
Although well written (both stories), I agree that this is clearly a case of rape. He might have been smiling but he didn't know it was REALLY happening. He might have wished it were happening with her, but he didn't and didn't give consent. Liking something in your sleep and being consentual are two different things. Its not okay what she did just because he's male--the thoughts you gave her clearly show she was rationaizing her behavior. I guess its just the principle of the matter and that I just don't understand why you don't label it as non-consent????
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
I don't label this as rape because it isn't. Rape is not about sex; rape is about power, about dominance, it is about cruelty and brutality. Only twisted minds consider rape as something erotic, and I never, ever will describe true rape as something desirable (although I have read too many stories where this happens.)What Hermione does is not right, of course. But she does not harm him; she wants him to enjoy this, and he does. She wants to feel him, touch him, she kisses him; this is about need and sex, about desire and longing, and were she older and more experienced, she would want him to participate fully in the action instead of sleep through it. As it is, she cannot help her overwhelming need, and she takes him because she wants it and figures he would want it, too. Which he does, as can be seen in the counterpart. He dreams of her, he wishes she were real, it would really happen, he loves every moment of it. No rape, definitely not. Never rape. Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I apreciate your feedback a lot!
Response from Myst (Reviewer)
How many men "figure" they want it just because the woman's body is responding. She needs to control here "overwhelming need." If those terms would be applied to the man, it would be rape--even if no physical harm was caused. It is non-consentual, period. It is not an established couple where consent has been established. Most stories I have read in this questionable area would have at least put "dubious consent" to give the reader heads up. No, I'm not a rape victem just not to into glamourizing a non-consentual encounter, no matter how nice it was written and the characters glamourize it---hmmmm, and Snape didn't go to class for a week--that is an emotional response. No harm, my foot. Sorry to take your time.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Erm, I did warn for dub con, dear. And she's too young to control her need. If it were the other way round - Snape taking her - I would have an issue with it because he's a grown man and she's a student. But if, for example, a male student would do sth similar to an older, female teacher (asleep), a teacher who would dream about him just that very moment, then I wouldn't call it rape, either. And the characters are the only ones who can judge here. He enjoys it; therefore, no rape. A rape victim never enjoys what happens. And he's not unconscious, which would make this an entirely different situation.Sigh. We are of a different opinion here, and that cannot be solved. If you want a male opinion on in, read the reviews from Smoggy and Alcina's husband. I also posted a help request on my LJ, asking for more male opinions. It is a delicate matter, no question here. I will pick up the issue in the sequel, definitely.
Amazing how different a feel a story can create told from a different perspective. Very good on both stories. I am so glad there will be a sequel. I look forward to reading it soon. Thanks for posting, JoAnne
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
I'm affraid I'll have to nudge my beta a bit - it is still in her hands, and it is longer than the two stories here together. Thanks for reading and reviewing!
I liked Sleeping Beauty. I suppose that Snowstorm will be about Severus' reaction.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Thanks for letting me know - I got stronger reviews on those two parts than expected, I must admit. Snowstorm, still in the hands of my beta, will deal with a totally different situation, but eventually, will clarify a few things between them ;-)
It was well-written, as everything you post here always, always is, but it is more clear than ever to me that this is rape. I won't rate it because that would be unfair, but it bothers me on many different levels the double standard shown in other reviews here. I just can't help but think that, as I said before, if he came into her room and penetrated her when she was asleep and unable to give consent, many more people would be squicked out and calling it what it is.I'll continue to read what you post here, no worries. I always have and this is the only time I've been too bothered to complete a story of yours, and I know some people have "sleeping people" fetishes, so I won't judge. But I would personally set "dubious consent" to straight up "nonconsent", because you can't give consent at all when you are unconscious. I'm pretty sure that is an option I have seen on this site.Sorry for the not-entirely-positive review. I am serious when I say that I normally absolutely love your work though; I've read everything else you've written here :)
Response from michiruwater (Reviewer)
So I was wrong; there is not a straight-up nonconsent, but there is a "rape" option. I do think it is possibly a good idea, perhaps put together with the dubious consent warning, but of course it is up to you. I feel like I am coming across much more pushy than I wanted to be; my apologies about that. I just wanted to correct that one thing but I can't find a way to edit a review once you're past that last screen
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
I take it you finished the story after all?Well, for once, let me point you to Smoggy's review - he's a friend of mine and I asked him to read and gibe his (male) opinion. Second, this is not rape, not at all. I said it elsewhere, but as you took the time for such a long review, I will answer accordingly. Rape is not about sex. Rape is about power and dominance, it is about cruelty and brutality. Nothing erotic there, and whenever I write about rape (as in Obliviate) I make absolutely clear that it is one of the worst things that can happen to a person. Here, though, we have something both parties genuinly enjoy. On different levels, yes: Snape thinks he dreams her. But he loves every second and he only tries to stay asleep because he fears she'd be gone once he opens his eyes. She tries to please him (and herself, of course). Were she older, she would want him to be awake so he could participate in the night's actions. And I wouldn't say it any other way if he came into her room and took her whilst she was asleep. Hand on. That is part of the sequel ;-)))Again, thanks for reviewing. And no, you were not pushy. Pluy, I think I should be grateful you didn't rate the story *g*
Response from michiruwater (Reviewer)
We'll have to agree to disagree on the rape thing, which is fine :) Thanks for such a nice response though. I was terribly worried I'd totally offended you! I look forward to future works from you :D
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
I usually try not to stomp on my readers ;-) Actually, I posted a help-request on LJ to get some more male opinions. It seems as if men and woman don't think alike here. And it seems I tend to be on the male side *g*
Naughty girl wants more! :)
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
About which naughty girl are we talking about here, dear??More soon, hopefully. My beta is quite busy at the moment, and I don't know when and if she can finish the sequel. In case you volunteer to beta Snowstorm, let me know.
I feel funny about this. On the one hand I don't agree with what she's done. It can be considered as rape and I can't accept it. Ont he other hand, were I at her place I don't know if I could have fight the temptation that he must have incarnate. Almost nake, asleep in a chair, alone, MMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm. Glad to know there will be a sequel.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
*lol* Temptation indeed, and she's only flesh and blood. And in need. And curious. Sigh. She made her decision and now has to live with it.The sequel is in the hands of my beta; I do hope she'll finish it soon. Thanks a lot for reviewing!
It is interesting to me how you chose to title these two stories. In the one where she is searching for a book, you entitles it Sleeping Beauty and in the one where he is asleep in front of the fire, you entitles it Searching for a Book. It seems that you chose the titles based on the instigating factor or motivational force rather than the action being done by the primary character. Would she have gone so far if she had not been presented with a sleeping beauty? Would he have had his dream if she hadn't been searching for a book? At the same time, it goes against their main rationalizations. How many times does he rationalize his continuing with the dream on the basis of him being asleep? How many times does she rationalize her actions of entering and prowling about his rooms with the thought that she really needs to find the book?I think the way you chose the titles makes the stories more interesting.
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
I must admit, I really didn't think that much about the titles ;-) When I wrote Searching, it got the title because her searching for a book gave me the initial idea. And when I wrote the sequel, I simply couldn't resist to name it Sleeping Beauty. But of course you are right: without him being asleep and without her searching for a book, nothing of this would have happened. And neither would have had the motivation to go as far as they do without the initial circumstances. Thanks so much for reading and reviewing!
Wonderful change of view! Oh my goodness, this is a very curious Hermione, but I'm not so sure she will always remain so proud of herself. LOL! Under different circumstances (not so horny and inexperienced), I don't know that she would have made the same decision. But what do I know? It is obvious from both their stories that they both enjoyed what happened, only Severus thought it was all a dream, and Hermione knows she had taken advantage of her Professor due to an unusual set of circumstances.Seeing the story from her POV is really different. Instead of being the sleeping one having a dream, she is the one who is actively making her dream come true. She was able to rationalize that it would be all right to explore and exploit her Professor's obvious dream state knowing that because of the Sleeping Draught he'd taken, he wouldn't likely awake while they were engaged in this intimate act. I liked seeing how this teen aged "almost-woman" could talk herself into believing it would be all right to take such liberties with the sleeping object of her affections, and then find a reason (revenge for his behavior and remarks to her in the classroom) to say her parting shot as she left. Now I'm trying to decide how they would behave toward each other if each came to know the truth of what had happened. Would Hermione be filled with remorse? Would Severus be able to get beyond the notion that she had taken advantage of him — against his knowledge, if not against his will? Perhaps if she had not still been his student, he would be able to forgive her actions. Or maybe it would not matter to him. This has been such an interesting character study, and I am eagerly looking forward to "Snowstorm." You've done a great job, and I did notice that whereas there was no dub-con warning for "Searching for a Book" because Severus was in a deep sleep induced by the Sleeping Potion and firmly believed he was dreaming, this story of "Sleeping Beauty" did have the dub-con warning because Hermione is making an informed decision to do what she did because she knows he is in not position to voice his permission on way or another. Good for you.Beth
Response from chivalric (Author of Sleeping Beauty)
Dear Beth,thanks so much for your detailed review! And you are right: had Hermione been older and/or more experienced, she wouldn't have done this. Only because she is pretty innocent, she could talk herself into taking him, into beliving that he'd want this as much as she did. I thought long if I should give a dub-con warning for Searching, but eventually I didn't because that story describes nothing but a dream, and one he enjoys. As a friend of mine pointed out, this is a wet fantasy for many men, and I tend to believe him :-)How would they react... well, that is a question for the sequel, although that story will deal with a completely different situation a couple of years later. Snape never learns it hasn't been a dream; Hermione never has to admit anything. Well. Eventually, she will of course *g* I hope I can post it soon although it is still in the hands of my beta.